Category Archives: 1Cor15

The first and last Adams

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1 Cor 15 is obviously relevant to Paul’s Adam/Christ comparison.  Some of the language is picked up in the BASF.  However we should observe what Paul is saying rather than push the comparison further. Continue reading

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Lampstand July 2017 insert – Death and Sin

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So the Lampstand Magazine continues on its insert to misrepresent the EC position on what death means and in the process neglect a serious number of scriptural passages raised by EC.  The relevant part of their insert is shown below: Continue reading

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Lampstand Magazine “Death the Last Enemy” Vol 23 (2017) response

Once again the Lampstand Magazine has demonstrated regrettable quality control in an article called “Death the Last Enemy (Part 2)” in Volume 23.  Strawmen attacks abound and the article notably fails (as did the last one) to deal with any of the arguments/rationale advanced by those who accept EC. Continue reading

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The first man Adam and The Lampstand

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The bible dictates how we should understand things – including human summaries of the gospel.  The Lampstand wishes to insist Adam was the first man in their July 2017 insert.  We have already dealt with the scriptural differences between Gen 1 and 2 (which deals therefore with Gen 1:27).  The second proof text they advance is the view of Adam that Eve was the mother of all living Gen 3:23, as if Adam was someone informed on the state of the world outside the cloistered garden

Interestingly as old earth creationists, they strictly believe ‘Adam is the first man in the current creation’ (which is not in the bible of course).  This is just bad biblical exposition.  In the context of 1 Cor 15:45 Adam is the first man and Jesus the last Adam, Adam the first man and Jesus the second (1Cor 15:47).  It’s bad exposition to demand Adam was literally first and Christ spiritually second & last.  Nothing more nothing less.

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Death in Rom 5 is not “mortality” but the fate of the wicked

This is a key issue.  There are two Greek words which are closely related but are not the same.  Death and mortality are two different words in Greek as they are in English and they have slightly different meanings.  Our community puts great store on the importance of accuracy in exposition and individual words in Scripture.  Confusing them or readily ignoring the distinction between words is not and should not be our approach.  Firstly to death: Continue reading

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Wilfred Lambert stated the human race is more than 7,000 years old

Bro Wilfred Lambert was one of the foremost Assyriologists of his generation.  He wrote quite explicitly about the connection between ancient near eastern ideas (about which he was an expert) and the impossibility of reconciling Gen 1-3 with science.  Some of his specific observations in the following article are:

  • The antiquity of the earth and man is unquestionably longer than biblical literalists can allow
  • Gen 1 and Gen 2-3 are separate events and cannot be read as literal/scientific accounts
  • The solid raqia was a common/borrowed understanding of the sky
  • Humanity is far older than 7,000 years

Bro Wilfred was not disfellowshipped for such ideas (for the record – I take elements of Gen 2-3 more literally than he did) Continue reading

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J Thomas in ‘Catechesis’, 1866 published Logos 1997

  1. What was “the first man Adam,” and where did he come from?

Ans. He was dust “formed into a living soul,” and came “out of the ground” (Gen. 2:7; 3:19).

  1. What does Paul term “a living soul”?

Ans. “A natural body”—σωμα ψυχικον, soma psuchikon (1Cor. 15:44–45). Continue reading

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