Category Archives: Science & scripture

2,000 year old Bible fragments found (great) with a 10,000 year old basket (bad)

photo credit: SHAI HALEVI / ISRAEL ANTIQUITIES AUTHORITY

Archaeologists have found some fragments of OT prophets written in Greek which they dated back 2,000 years. In the same location a 6,000 year old skeleton was found (a young child carefully buried in their blanket) and a 10,000 year old basket. Guess which date is accepted cheerfully by literalists and which two are rejected as a conspiracy?

For a more detailed post about the extensive ancient history of Palestine see this great article by another Christadelphian website.

How to turn people away from God

Christadelphians initially were staunch old earth creationists, which nearly worked to reconcile 19th century observations with traditional Bible interpretations. But now complete conspiracy theory stuff like dinosaurs existing alongside humans is circulated and promoted. It even gets used for bible classes! This is the natural fruit of ‘anti-science creation at all costs’ thinking. Great witness to God. Great way to put stumbling blocks in front of youth.

“The Way” was open to facts and new readings of Scripture – are we?

We all imagine we have arrived.  We talk about “The Truth” as if we have arrived.  Yet the Bible shows discipleship means growing and sometimes obtaining new insights into God.  Practical experience, cold hard facts sometimes prompt these insights.  Like we know humans have continually existed longer than 6,000 years.  We see this growth based on fact in Acts.

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God creates all things naturally

Drawing a distinction between natural processes and God’s activities is a modern approach rather than a scriptural one.  Scripturally, natural processes are owned and operated by God.  They are simultaneously “mechanical” and divine.  Psalm 139 is a classic example of a divine creative act and a natural process being combined.  The criticism of creationists that evolution takes God out of the picture ain’t necessarily so.

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Phenomenological language (Creation Day 2020)

This mouthful means language describing how things appear to be. It’s a complicated idea used by creationists to avoid uncomfortable truths. Eg the Bible says the sun rises. They will claim the Bible is using phenomenological language – it is correctly recording what is relatively right only in the ill-informed & limited perspective of a human observer who is unfortunately technically wrong. How do they know it is phenomenological? Because science has shown the earth rotates. The Bible never teaches the actual facts about the planet and sun. But that’s ok – it’s phenomenologically absolutely accurate in it’s inaccuracy.

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Creationist predictions repeatedly fail (part 3)

What a Creation predicts?What we find
Fossil records should show all life appearing within 72 hours, so no stratificationSimpler life forms deeper in time and very complex life later
A genetic bottleneck in humanity 6,000 years agoWe can see bottlenecks in other species older then 6,000 years ago but not in humans
Mitochondrial DNA would show a common female ancestor 6,000 years agoThe maths says 100,000 years ago
Maximum human diversity in Middle East and reducing as humans move outMaximum human diversity in Africa
Functional designThe onion has more DNA than humans
Human genetic diversity should be low enough to enable drug free organ transplantsUnlike other species where there ARE 10,000 year old genetic bottlenecks, we need anti-rejection drugs.

If the literal creationist model was right there would be some great benefits. Dead easy organ transplants for example – like we see in cheetahs. Alas the facts reject the creationist hypothesis.

Creationist predictions repeatedly fail (part 2)

A literal creation predicts:But what we find is
Stars were made 6,000 years agoRed shift enables us to date star formation and it is much older.  The light from some stars reaches us after a billion years
Seasons started 6,000 years agoVarve layers (one example) show 45,000 years of continuous life and seasons
6,000 years ago there were no treesTree rings show continuity of life for 11,600 years
Lifeforms no older than 6,000 years oldSingle gene organisms and coral formations are older than this.  DNA also shows ongoing old life

Some things logically follow from a literal reading of Genesis 1-3. Yet they cannot be reconciled with simple facts. As Deut 18 says, false predictions come from false prophets. The proof is in the pudding. And a literal reading is unsustainable on the facts.

Creationist predictions repeatedly fail (part 1)

A literal creation predicts:But what we find is
No light was reached EarthThermoluminescence dating of sediments says light always hit Earth
Weather patterns will show a break/start 6,000 years agoUninterrupted hundreds of thousands of years of weather in ice cores
The sea was lifeless 6,000 years agoSeabed plankton sediments showing 56 million years of continuous life
Tidal records only start with the moon’s creation 6,000 years oldTidal records (written in rock) go way further back
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