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LG Sargent rejected Logos attempts to dictate the understanding of Gen 1

LG Sargent LG in the 1966 Christadelphian Magazine (Vol 103, page 458–460), wrote a scathing letter to The Logos magazine editor following criticism of Sargent’s non literal approach to Genesis 1 (eg leaving the time in Gen 1 as an open question).  Sargent was opposed to evolution, but clearly notes our community (historically at least) took on board the plain observations of science.  He also noted Bro Thomas always accepted the earth had long rotated because of science.  Sargent also restates Walker’s earlier observation that there is no evidence (and should be according to most literalists) of a cataclysmic end to life and a reboot some 6,000 years ago.  50 years later again we have South Australian demands on how Genesis and fellowship statements should be read (see here for a response to the IEAC statement).  See below for the full letter from Sargent. Continue reading

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R Roberts in 1869 twice denied a significant change in Adam

 Robert Roberts in 1869 stated very plainly there was no miraculous change in Adam post the fall.  Of course he changed his mind later but never really addressed his exposition of 1 Cor 15.


But there is a misapprehension lurking under the proposition which we are combating. Our friend imagines there was a change in the nature of Adam when he became disobedient. There is no evidence of this whatever, and the presumption and evidence are entirely the contrary way. There was a change in Adam’s relation to his maker, but not in the nature of his organization. What are the facts? He was formed from the dust a “living soul,” or natural body. His mental constitution gave him moral relation to God. He was given a law to observe: the law he disobeyed, and sentence was passed that he (the disobedient living soul) should return to mother earth. Continue reading

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LG Sargent concluded Adam was mortal

In reviewing J Thomas’ writings on Adam before the fall, LG Sargent emphatically concluded Adam was made mortal and reconciled this with Bro Thomas’ teachings (although his fate was uncertain – a position I agree with).  His article is reproduced below: Continue reading

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Wilfred Lambert stated the human race is more than 7,000 years old

Bro Wilfred Lambert was one of the foremost Assyriologists of his generation.  He wrote quite explicitly about the connection between ancient near eastern ideas (about which he was an expert) and the impossibility of reconciling Gen 1-3 with science.  Some of his specific observations in the following article are:

  • The antiquity of the earth and man is unquestionably longer than biblical literalists can allow
  • Gen 1 and Gen 2-3 are separate events and cannot be read as literal/scientific accounts
  • The solid raqia was a common/borrowed understanding of the sky
  • Humanity is far older than 7,000 years

Bro Wilfred was not disfellowshipped for such ideas (for the record – I take elements of Gen 2-3 more literally than he did) Continue reading

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Alan Eyre rejecting anti science nonsense

Bro Alan Eyre is well known to many in the community.  He is also a lifelong scientist.  In 2015, in response to anti evolution articles in many of our publications he released an open letter which among other things asserts:

  • The universe and life is old
  • The science of dating is secure by multiple lines of evidence
  • The geological column is reliable
  • Anti science and evolutionary articles in our community are poorly researched and based on flawed information
  • Genesis 1 cannot be reconciled to the physical facts obvious to our God given senses

The full letter follows Continue reading

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Bro Weaving – accepted science, not disfellowshipped

Lovelock was not the last individual to achieve unwanted attention after publishing on the subject of origins and evolution.  Never mentioned by those who oppose EC is the late 1960s (after Lovelock) case of Brother Jack Weaving from the Birmingham Central ecclesia.  He published a series of articles in the Endeavour Magazine dealing with evolution.  Continue reading

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Lovelock wasn’t a unanimous decision or a binding precedent

The case of Bro Ralph Lovelock and his disfellowship is often publicised as demonstrating our community has dealt with, once and for all, the question of EC.  However the full picture is rarely conveyed.  Bro Lovelock was a prominent English brother noted for his intelligence.  He gave a series of talks in 1964 on the origin of man which caused significant disquiet.  He proposed a form of EC.  His notes were subsequently published – I have read a copy.  With the benefit of hindsight, Bro Lovelock’s science was astray and his scriptural reconciliation I cannot agree with.  It was brave but ultimately disastrous move as eventually Bro Ralph Lovelock was disfellowshiped in 1966 by the Watford ecclesia.  They wrote to the Christadelphian Magazine explaining their decision in detail.  In doing so they also acknowledged the challenges in interpreting Genesis 1-3 stating: Continue reading

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