Fixing up Rom 5:12 Old earth creation version


OEC rom512 v2Old earth creationists have death and mortality happening before Adam, stopping for a while and restarting all because of Adam.  They insist only they read Romans 5:12 literally.  We “fixed” it so it matches their belief.  It’s fundamental.  It’s simple.  It’s not what Romans 5:12 says.


Fixing up Romans 5:12 YEC version

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered

Now this so-called fundamental comes from a much disputed passage. Debate about the only possible way its final clause can be understood has raged for centuries, well before our community inherited some views and took sides. Why don’t people just find other places where the Bible says what they want it to say, instead of quarrelling about Romans 5:12?  Continue reading

Did Adam need to breathe?

The Spirit of God hath made me, And the breath of the Almighty hath given me life….Behold, I am according to thy wish in God’s stead: I also am formed out of the clay

Could be Adam speaking but is actually Elihu in Job 33:4-6.  Adam needed to breathe.  Just like Elihu.  The point should be obvious.



Fixing up 1 Cor 15:47-48

Literally] The first man [ever

Was Paul talking in types and federal heads or teaching biology with the reference to Adam?  Biology say the literalists.  The jump from literal history to spiritual needs clarification.  Of course old earth creationists need extra fixes.  They think Adam is literally and historically the first man of this creation.  The Bible inconveniently doesn’t mention these creations, nor does the geological record.  They believe there were men before Adam in these other creations.  So Adam is the first one this time.  Complicated for first and fundamental principles hey?

Fixing up Gen 2:17 for literalists

treePlease understand we at COD cheerfully share fellowship in Christ with all manner of creationists.  But when some seek contention about what they think the Bible says, we will point out how much pressure their reading puts on the text.  So we “fixed” Gen 2:17  to read as the literalists simply read it.  Quite different isn’t it.

Fixing up Gen 2:7 for literalists

And the Lord God formed man of theWhat the Bible says can differ from what you think it should say.  Some think they are cleaning up heresy by fighting evolutionary creationists.  But are they reading aright?  Below is Gen 2:7 (KJV) adjusted to match what some claim.

Of course this contradicts Paul’s exposition saying Adam was made mortal as a living soul, but let’s not worry about that.