Misleading accusations at Rathmines

After showing us his cavalier approach to truth and presenting some breathtakingly illogical arguments, the speaker moves on to add false allegations to the mix. Yes, this was a Rathmines Bible school, and a brother misusing the opportunity to build up, and instead engaging in misleading, irrational and misleading rhetoric. In the speaker’s mind, Evolutionary Creationists chuck away bits of the Bible – probably because of too much education!From [13.40] the speaker moves on to make some serious, and false, allegations. He makes the claim that there is a “timeless danger” which is part and parcel of Evolutionary Creationism (or as he continually refers to it,  “Theistic Evolution”). How does he summarise this danger? Well in his own words he claims that:

[13.50] it’s disrespect for God’s Word…[14.07] think about that it’s the Word of God that they’re rejecting, it’s not some little sideline debate between two intellectual people, it’s the Word of God that is being attacked. That God himself, his integrity, his honesty, his righteousness…that we [this referring to ECs] chuck away pieces [of the Bible] that we think are not important . . .

So you in case you missed it, we Evolutionary Creationists reject God’s word, we “chuck away”  parts of the Bible! No. Totally untrue. The speaker seems to be incapable of recognising that disagreeing with his preferred opinion is NOT disrespecting God’s word. This is a classic hyper-literalist approach. They confuse God’s word with their interpretation of God’s word.

To what awful malaise does this speaker attribute this terrible state affairs when people will “chuck away” God’s word (well – the speaker’s interpretation of God’s word at least)? The speaker clearly articulates the cause:

[14.48] the sad thing is that these things pop up when education – when secular education seems to get pushed along in society

Yes. When in doubt, blame the fact that people are better educated!  They might know too much. Or they might learn to ask too many questions. If “all facts are of God”, as Robert Roberts wrote, “so [science and the Bible] must be in agreement”, then what is there to fear from education? Might people learn to be proud and over-confident, to misrepresent the truth, to make false claims about others?  These failings are not limited to educated people, they also come with ignorance.

The speaker then tries to rally scripture  to join him in his attack on education. Sadly he misunderstands his material.  At [15.15] he claims Paul condemns the “oppositions of science falsely so called” (1 Tim 6:20).  Any reasonable Bible student would recognise this mis-use, as the word means knowledge, not science as we know it.  Simple Bible reading would identify from the context of 1 Tim 6:4 and the start of the book in 1 Tim 1:4 that Timothy was combatting people elevating themselves based on Jewish myths & fables – not science

Based on this mis-use of scripture, the speaker then goes on to mis-characterise the gospel and scripture in general. He insists that the gospel is simple ([15:50 and following]).  He is half right in this, and  his references in 1 Cor show Paul using a simple approach – but sometimes it isn’t true at all.  A more comprehensive view also includes what Peter wrote about Paul’s writings – that they include material that is hard to understand (2 Pet 3:16).  It is highly misleading to suggest that scripture glorifies “simplicity” (or ignorance) for its own sake, but it fits the theme of anti-intellectualism coming through this section of the talk.

In stark contrast to the earlier views of our community that good science would match good scripture, the speaker sees any attempt at reconciling the two as just yielding to the philosophy of the world – not  “accepting” God’s word [19:50]. He goes on to assert that if we don’t accept the opening statement of the Bible in Genesis 1:1 as he does, then we misunderstand the rest of the book and we will be tearing pieces out of our Bibles and rejecting miracles. This is just more angry rhetoric and falsehood. . The speaker is seemingly oblivious to the many and varied interpretations of Genesis 1 which have found a place in our community. It’s either his reading or no reading….

He doubles down on the false accusations and rhetoric:

[20.56] the Bible becomes a black hole to you because you won’t accept that there is a Creator that controls all things, and he made all things. It’s that fundamental: if you can’t accept that, you will never know the truth!

Complete nonsense. I believe that God is the Creator who made all things. Evolutionary CREATIONISM should be a clue to that. This speaker throws around these false claims like so much confetti.

Zero evidence, zero scripture, zero science, just lots of steam and falsehood.  Disagreeing with him apparently is all the evidence he needs  to demonstrate evolutionary creationists’ gross error. Given his loose use of facts, irrational arguments, misreading of Scripture and false claims about “chucking away” bits of the Bible, I’m not unhappy to be of a different opinion.

By now you would hope maybe the bottom of the barrel has been scraped, but oh no! There is more to come.  Alas.


1 thought on “Misleading accusations at Rathmines

  1. Jeremy Neate

    So sad that people like this speaker argue about the natural creation when we should all be focusing on God’s New Creation though Christ.



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